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We Are Sorry…Please Forgive Us: Part 1

Filed under: Church Planting — John Edgar Caterson

“Uh. . .Please. . .uh. . .I’m. . .Sorry.” Those are the exact words of one person in the past week in his attempt to make things right. Not a pro job, but a valiant effort.

People in the news have been falling all over themselves apologizing lately – have you noticed? They say that deaths of celebrities tend to come in threes. Maybe highly visible apologies come in groupings as well.

In New York, the disgraced broadcaster Don Imus has been apologizing for more than a week. His “Imus in the Morning Show” was pulled off the airwaves by CBS Inc. for racist and sexist comments about the Rutgers women’s basketball team.

In Washington, DC Attorney General Alberto Gonzales apologized for the firing of eight U.S. attorneys before the Senate Judiciary Committee last Thursday. However, several administration officials and the House Republican Conference chairman said Friday that Gonzales should step down.

(By the way did you catch the reference to this in the parody on Saturday Night Live this past weekend? Simply classic! It will make it onto the “Best of SNL” DVDs eventually.)

In Blacksburg, Virginia – the family of Virginia Tech killer Seung-Hui Cho apologized on Friday, stating that they feel "hopeless, helpless and lost" and are "deeply sorry" for his "unspeakable actions." This statement released by his sister, Sun-Kyung Cho, was the first family comment since Seung-Hui shot and killed 32 people and then killed himself. "We are humbled by this darkness," Cho’s sister, said. "He has made the world weep. We are living a nightmare."

Finally, in Los Angeles, California – Alec Baldwin apologized for his angry, scalding words to his 12-year-old daughter Ireland. I’m not sure if the 49-year-old actor’s explanation of himself Friday cuts the mustard – after all he called her a ‘Rude Little Pig.” But in typical Baldwin fashion, he said, "I’m sorry, as everyone who knows me is aware, for losing my temper with my child. I have been driven to the edge by parental alienation for many years now. You have to go through this to understand. (Although I hope you never do.) I am sorry for what happened."

I can’t help to see the contrast between Sun-Kyung Cho and Mr. Baldwin or is it just me? .

When is the last time you heard a sincere apology? A heartfelt, “I’m sorry, please forgive me” is p-o-w-e-r-f-u-l! Unfortunately, those who spend their existence inside the walls of the ‘Church’ are so often oblivious to this earth moving dynamic.

My favorite Starbucks manager is a PK [Pastor’s Kid] who hates – yes, I said hates the Church. Yet, ironically he loves to talk about Christ, spirituality, and serving (he has even helped us with Outflow service events).

Recently while we were rehashing Ted Haggard’s apology he said, “Please – he’s sorry? I tell you what; the Church should spend the next ten years asking for forgiveness. Then maybe I’d consider going.”

I said, “What do you think the Church should apologize for?”

He said, “For being so hypocritical and so irrelevant!”

Wow! Now that hits a nerve! You have to love it when someone is so honest.

And let’s be perfectly clear about this: I think he is right!

I have been chewing on what we should do about it 24/7 since then, like a broken record. I have been talking about it with most of my local leaders.

A couple of things stand out from my conversation with my Starbucks’ friend that are simply profound:

1. He is offended and feels “used” negatively.

One my co-conspirators has approached this dilemma head on. Steve Sjogren came up with the brilliant idea to print t-shirts that say, “Please Forgive Me” (patent pending) I love it – simple, concise, and to the point.

Here’s the thing – I bet many people would appreciate it. Just imagine the conversations you would likely inspire when people ask “Why the shirt?” and you simply say “Because we as the Church have failed enormously at just being the Chruch in so many ways . . .”

2. He spoke from his heart.

Another friend of mine, Bryan Johnston, bryan@tideschurch.org is a church planter and lead pastor of Tides Church in Lake Elsinore, California. He is currently preaching through an original series called, “WE ARE SORRY FOR . . .”

A few of things Bryan has been addressing are spot on:

  • • Hypocrisy
  • • Judging
  • • Legalism
  • • Irrelevance
  • • Acting Holier Than Thou

I don’t know about you, but there are plenty of people I run into in my neighborhood, at my kid’s school, at the mall, etc. who would love an apology from the church for any of these.

I have always been in awe of Christ’s words from the cross – “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing" (Luke 23:34).

Steve & Bryan have given church planters a couple of awesome strategies. So let’s start wearing the t-shirt to Starbucks and humbly beg for forgiveness from our pulpits and watch God touch the multitudes of wounded hearts alienated by the Church.




John Edgar Caterson is a veteran church planter currently serving as the Lead Pastor of Mosaic Rancho Cucamonga and a member of the CoastlandTampa Talent Team. Steve Sjogren has coached him for the last 10 years.

Evel Kneivel Lights a Fire: The Power of Your Story

Filed under: Church Planting — Steve Sjogren

Evel Kneivel – there’s a blast from the past. He put motorcycle daredevil jumping on the map a few decades ago. He once claimed to have broken every bone in his body during crashes minus the tiny bones in his ears! It takes a “special” person to make one’s living that way.

A few weeks ago he told his recent Jesus story at Crystal Cathedral at their televised service. The result? Over 500 present asked to be baptized! That is super. I think we are approaching “normal.”

Let’s be perfectly clear about this:

The pundits who sit off to the side with theoretical theology (by the way, that is a huge oxymoron) and proposed what happened on Palm Sunday at the Crystal Cathedral was a touch of revival are way off. (You can read the ChristianityTodayOnline story for yourself.)

We are so starved for a single drop of authentic spirituality, when we hear of something or see something, the media tends to show up with satellite trucks en masse.

What happened was really very simple.

I am a fan of Robert Schueller, Sr’s. He is an amazing pioneer in nearly countless areas of the expansion of areas of the way the local church does things – more practices than most of us realize.

What happened that day was what Peter referred to when he stated, "Be ready to give an account of the hope that lies within you…"

We are nearly addicted to the notion that if something significant happens there must be come sort of magic bullet effect that has taken place…

- let’s load up the busses and head there - some sort of amazing move of God taking place… let’s not miss the bless spout

- …for Pete’s sake, someone contact the publisher’s 800 number and get a ghost writer moving on this at double time…

- this has sales potential all over it!

A thousand times no!

A couple of things stand out from Kneivel’s story that are simply profound:

1. He told his simple story.

Back to Peter. Your – story – has – great – power! Your peoples’ stories have great power. Just start telling them. Great things will be released. No need to exaggerate. Jesus will shine through.

It’s simple. Drop the cute. Drop the memorized program. Start telling your story and watch what begins to happen. You will be amazed.

2. He told his story from his heart.

Evel Kneivel is a high school drop out.

He is simple.
He is unfiltered.
He hasn’t been "church broken" yet.

"I don’t know what in the world happened. I don’t know if it was the power of the prayer or God himself, but it just reached out, either while I was driving or walking down the sidewalk or sleeping, and it just—the power of God in Jesus just grabbed me. … All of a sudden, I just believed in Jesus Christ. I did, I believed in him! … I rose up in bed and, I was by myself, and I said, ‘Devil, Devil, you bastard you, get away from me. I cast you out of my life.’ … I just got on my knees and prayed that God would put his arms around me and never, ever, ever let me go."

You have to love it when someone tells their story or even prays from their heart, without guile, and uses colorful language!

He hasn’t been trained how to "church-speak" yet so he spoke from his heart – and it was p-o-w-e-r-f-u-l.

I’m certain a "volunteer" will inform Mr. Kneivel how he "ought" to rightly tell his story versus the way he has told it up until now.

Personally, I hope he doesn’t listen to that person(s) – for it will rob his story of part of its purity and power.

3. He gave glory to God.

If you look through Church history you will see that the truly profound conversions are nearly all just like Mr. Kneivel’s. Something happens in the heart that is unexplainable. C.S. Lewis got on his brother’s motorcycle on the way to the London Zoo not knowing Jesus. When he got off the bike he knew Jesus. How did it happen? He had no idea.

Conversions are the arena of the heart, not the mind.

Let’s invade hearts by doing the ministry of Jesus – loving, serving, showing generosity, meeting the needs of the next person he invites across our path. Sure, let’s answer questions. But we don’t need any more mental conversions. It appears we have plenty of those already.



Steve Sjogren is the senior leader of CoastlandTampa, a church launch. He is also the leader of ServeCoach – a group of coaches that are dedicated to making leaders successful in areas such as outreach, outward focused leadership, writing, communications and innovative church start ups based on an over 90% successful coaching history with church planters.

Don’t be a “Fainting Goat”: Persevere!

Filed under: Church Planting — Steve Sjogren

The Discovery Channel ran a story about small-sized goat breed that is a bit rare now (just 5,000 left in the world — all in captivity). They are cute as far as goats go. Personally I’ve never entertained the idea of having an inside the house goat that would come to me when I called its name. Maybe that is your thing. If so, put the word “Fainting Goats” into Google and you’ll find more info on these little guys than you can absorb.

“Fainting” goats you ask? As it turns out these goats are rather emotional. They feel strongly. (Perhaps that is part of the reason for their demise and rarity…) As I watched the show I honestly thought, “Come on! These are goats…You know the creatures that eat anything. The image of them having emotional problems just doesn’t fit…”

When they sense any measure of above average
excitement,
depression,
fear,
… they simply fall over and faint.

This trait is not like possums who fake their death as a defense mechanism.

Faint Not!

I’m not a big fan of the King James Version in general. My style of teaching is to use several versions in the course of one message. But sometimes it is difficult to top the the KJV!

Perhaps the best King James phrase is the gut busting command, “Faint not!” Those two words appear time and again in the gospels as well as in Paul’s letters.

I have felt tempted to faint many times in the course of leading.

According to many repetitions of these same scriptures in the New Testament, we can choose to not faint.

“Don’t give up - never surrender!”

Those are the words of Winson Churchill in the midst of the worst part of the blitzkrieg bombing of London in World War II. Many in England were ready to throw in the towel. Approximately half of the general population were of the opinion, “Let’s cut our losses now and move forward in the new world with Hitler as our Fuhrer. German isn’t that difficult a language to learn…”

Go out each week — minimally every other week — with your spouse for a good two hours for an emotional downloading session.

I’ve heard so many people encourage planters and pastors to hold to a “date night” that I’m about ill. Those who give such counsel are either not currently in the midst of leading or planting a church,  or they have forgotten the true grit that is connected with the atmosphere involved in a leadership marriage.

The objective of this time together is to just spill what has been happening inside each of you. The emotional “hoodabada” ™ (a word coined by my friend Charlie Wear - all that is the opposite of love and thinking the best about others) needs to be exposed to the light of day. All that continues to be hidden will eventually come out. The longer you wait to deal with it, the more toxic and destructive it becomes.

Talk, plan for the future.
Keep perspective.
Don’t be limited to where you are now only.
God speaks to leaders in the future tense.

It is very easy to become bogged down in the here and now only. With that lack of perspective comes leadership depression very quickly - guaranteed!

Work in these terms:
- A three month plan
- A six months plan
- A one-year plan
- An eighteen month plan

The closer your view, the clearer you can realistically plan.
The further away you are looking at things, the more vague and looser your grip needs to be upon things.

If you are in the midst of a “boggle” limit the amount of time you spend on it each day to a very short duration each day.

In the midst of planting, you are guaranteed going to face numerous “boggles” (situations that are beyond your control — the kinds of situations that are made more powerful as you think, talk, write, etc. about them…) Therefore, it is imperative that you set a time limit on how much time you will spend on “boggles” each day.

For the first three years of each of our plants thus far, we have had at least one boggle going at all times — sometimes as many as three at a time.

To stay sane, Janie and I set a time limit on each of these issues (they are actually people, but we’ll just call them “issues” to be polite). Most of the time we set a time limit of 10 minutes a day, five days a week.

After those 10 minutes are used up and someone brings up the Boggle again, we simply stop them with a smile and say, “We have established a schedule for how much time we will discuss that situation each day. I’m sorry but we have already used up all of today’s time on that. Let’s set an appointment on the phone for tomorrow or the next day early on so no one will have taken up the time on that by then…”

Politics in the Church…It’s Chernobyl all over again

Filed under: Church Leadership — Steve Sjogren

I am not a saber rattler. Those who regularly read my articles or books know this to be true. Though I do use hyperbole (overstatement) as a means of making a point sometimes, that is all in good fun and is obvious when I do that. (Sometime I will write an article on this site with email responses of seminary professors who have responded critically to my articles that contained hyperbole but they didn’t understand… “The good Rev. Sjogren claims that he has listened to a ‘close to a million sermons at this point in his life…’ I did the math on that and based on his approximate age, that is utterly impossible…” Hey, I don’t make this stuff up. I only wish there was a Church version of Saturday Night Live…)

In spite of my approach to taking the middle road on most issues, the longer I go forward as a leader and observer in the Church in the western world, the more concerned I am of the amazing destructive nature of in-house politics in the local church.

I’ve lived long enough to realize that politics is a way of life in any organization. I was an elementary school teacher before getting into pastoral ministry. Politics abounded in the educational scene. However, the potential losses and gains that lie in the balance in church politics compared to office or politics of the educational scene are quite different from one another.

Dealing With Captivated, Dug In Leaders

May I be frank with you for a bit? Even though I was aware of what I am sharing here as a spiritual reality prior to the planting of my first church (Janie and I are now working on our fifth plant by moving from location to location - yes, we are gluttons for punishment!) we have dealt nearly constantly with the issues contained in this article. That means, simply being aware of these truths is not any sort of guarantee that you or I will bypass wrestling with these issues.

Power Really Does Corrupt Deeply

People change - and quickly at that with a little bit of "authority." People you would think could never dramatically change in a hundred lifetimes do, in fact, become chameleons over a lunch period. “Gee, at 11:30 A.M. this person was happy-go -ucky. Now it’s 1:00 P.M. and they have the ‘killer’ look in their eyes…” Maybe he or she can’t play the piano like Jerry Lee Lewis, but in other ways there are resemblances.

I don’t know about you, but I like to keep surprises to a minimum. There are already lots of surprises that come our way as it is in life without the human “I have a low ego - I think I’ll use this organization as my therapy tool” surprise added in. Among pastors, this grasping for power is very common. Perhaps you have seen it. A much less expensive alternative to this approach is to actually use the psycho-therapy that is available with your insurance and go once a week for a year or two to get things straightened out.

“Can we talk?”

Perhaps you are in the middle of having painted yourself into a corner of a leadership situation where you are on the receiving end of the low ego therapy.

One of my best friends is an attorney, but specifically a litigator. If you aren’t familiar with that term, litigators are the blunt-headed lawyers who are often famous for their arguing skills. Litigators survive by learning to think, unfortunately, about what people are prone to do in their fallen nature. That includes church people.

This friend often reminds me of how I have made a lot of people wealthy over the years in various ways through my writing, speaking, recording, etc. I tell him, “But that’s actually part of my plan - to make others successful.”

His response is, “That’s all fine, but you made church people wealthy when you weren’t intending to - they just took advantage of you time after time after time. Too bad I wasn’t around as your friend when you were signing contracts or when you just took people’s words on various issues…”

I would like to say he is wrong, especially that people who follow Jesus have been changed to the point that there is no darker side to contend with, but truthfully he is exactly correct.

If you have been involved in leadership for some length of time no doubt you can tell your own story of being on the receiving end of an “opportunity” to help others that went south. God ultimately redeems everything. I simply wish for truthful communications and the putting to an end of manipulation in the Church world!

In one case I was involved in a taping that netted a group right at $1 million. I was not informed that this project was going to be marketed and sold. I understood it was a free project. Several years later someone told me of the story of this organization that had “scored” on this project.

Being in the publishing world for some time, I have had my fair share of rip-offs that have happened that go far beyond the above. I know I have financed more than a few beach-front properties of those involved in publishing who were facing bankruptcy. It was either A. Pay the authors-speakers, or B. Buy the condo in Lauderdale. No hints on how that mathematical equation ended.

The great lesson I have learned that has cost me many “pounds of flesh” as they say in England, is “When making an agreement that is of any consequence get the agreement in super clear contractual writing.” No, I am not referring to just publishing. I am referring to your relationship with the church you are currently working for.

When you suggest the notion of getting things in writing, you will get push back from nearly all of the leaders you are currently working with unless you have a large church. Keep in mind, times are changing. Just as good fences make for good neighbors, so also spelling things out clearly (your lawyer and their lawyer as well - DO NOT DEPEND ON THE CHURCH’S LAWYER - BIG MISTAKE - you don’t understand contractual language regardless of what you think a word means…)

Don’t give out titles if at all possible.

I suggest you resist giving titles to those who are functioning as leaders until it is absolutely essential.

I observe that leaders lead very well until they are given a title. From that point forward, things tend to go downhill. When a leader becomes intensely, highly focused upon the clarification of his or her title when you show them their “role sketch” realize this is a warning signal. In all of my years of leading, I have not yet seen such a flashing warning light not turn out to be a fiasco in the end. Those who are hungry for “clarification” as they usually put it, are really hungry for affirmation that you cannot provide. This sort of affirmation they are seeking is a sign they need therapy, that they have a blaming pattern that is long-term but you have not yet discovered it somehow (they have managed to keep it hidden from your view) and they have a shallow relationship with Jesus regardless of what they claim or appear to have going on with God. DON’T HIRE or RECRUIT THEM! All that glitters is not gold in this case.

One of our strong goals at CoastlandTampa is to try like the dickens to see the catalytic atmosphere (that initially ignites nearly all churches) continue as long as possible. We are stating this so boldly as this: We are setting out to see if we can see this catalytic atmosphere exist for the next three decades!

If we succeed in this, we will have nearly made Church history. Numbers of churches have gone as long as 25 years in a state of the catalytic going strong… but 30 years… wow, that seems like a very long time to exist in that state.

Keep in mind that Janie and I have done this for a long time already and have learned much on our journey.

It is the “catalytic culture” that attracts many to a new group like white on rice as they say. Here are a couple of things we are doing to keep that culture running strong as long as possible.

Build as flat an organization as is humanly possible.

All who are a part of Coastland will be called the same thing - “Talent.”

We are indeed an organization, but we are as flat as a pancake in western Kansas (“I can see for mile and miles”). I’m not a big fan of Rush Limbaugh, but one of his now retired lines is fully biblical - “Talent on loan from God.” That is true for each of us. If what you have to offer to the cause, to others you are serving, is not fully 100% talent from God, then you and I are not yet fully engaged with just Jesus’ power. That is our goal - to flow with Jesus’ power - not self-power. Availability is the goal. 

We do use the term “pastor” when necessary, but with just two exceptions all pastors are just plain ol “Pastors” including me. The two exceptions to this are the Children’s Pastor and the Youth Pastor. Without clarifying these two roles, things would get confusing. Otherwise, when people who insist upon each person being pigeon-holed we have all agreed (ten of us to begin with) are simply going to say, “I’m a pastor at Coastland. I do the following with my time at this point. We each have role sketches that are subject to change as Coastland evolves, but that’s what I’m doing now.” (We like the term “role sketch” much better than “job description” - the latter sounds very permanent, parental - implying someone at the top of the totem pole with ultimate wisdom has it all figured out. We are a limber organization. Another important descriptor of a long-term catalytic group.)

Jesus had a lot to say about "church politics." I like the way Eugene Peterson’s Message translates this passage from Matthew 23:

1-3 Now Jesus turned to address his disciples, along with the crowd that had gathered with them. "The religion scholars and Pharisees are competent teachers in God’s Law. You won’t go wrong in following their teachings on Moses. But be careful about following them. They talk a good line, but they don’t live it. They don’t take it into their hearts and live it out in their behavior. It’s all spit-and-polish veneer.

 4-7"Instead of giving you God’s Law as food and drink by which you can banquet on God, they package it in bundles of rules, loading you down like pack animals. They seem to take pleasure in watching you stagger under these loads, and wouldn’t think of lifting a finger to help. Their lives are perpetual fashion shows, embroidered prayer shawls one day and flowery prayers the next. They love to sit at the head table at church dinners, basking in the most prominent positions, preening in the radiance of public flattery, receiving honorary degrees, and getting called ‘Doctor’ and ‘Reverend.’

 8-10"Don’t let people do that to you, put you on a pedestal like that. You all have a single Teacher, and you are all classmates. Don’t set people up as experts over your life, letting them tell you what to do. Save that authority for God; let him tell you what to do. No one else should carry the title of ‘Father’; you have only one Father, and he’s in heaven. And don’t let people maneuver you into taking charge of them. There is only one Life-Leader for you and them—Christ.

 11-12"Do you want to stand out? Then step down. Be a servant. If you puff yourself up, you’ll get the wind knocked out of you. But if you’re content to simply be yourself, your life will count for plenty.